T&C | Episode 84: Face Off
tmoore2025-04-30T15:26:49+00:00In the first half, we discuss the showdown between the U.S. and China on tariffs. While the headlines have been stolen by who is calling whom first, we look into the effect the tariffs are already having on container ship volumes, and what implications that has for the rest of the supply chain, and the economy. Tariffs are just starting to hit consumers as they look to buy online, with the tariff exceeding the purchase price in some cases. While there is optimism over a resolution, historically trade agreements have involved lengthy negotiations, and we are weeks away from the initial impact of being felt, making this akin to a slow moving shipwreck. We also discuss the impact of student loan payments turning back on after years of forbearance. In the second half, we discuss the rebound in U.S. equities, which are anticipating a quick and painless resolution to the trade war, along with three or four cuts by the Federal Reserve during the rest of this year. In our opinion, that number of cuts would only occur if we saw the onset of a recession, which has significant market implications. Since World War II, the average recession sees gross domestic product (GDP) decline 2.3%. The average earnings decline for the S&P 500 is 11% during a recession However, around 1/3 of the time, earnings decline 5% or less. Total debt - $34 trillion Domestic holders - $26 trillion Japan - $1.1 trillion China - $820 billion (though may be understated as offshore entities, i.e., other countries, are likely being used as well) Other countries - $5.3 trillion In the second half, we discuss the volatile reaction of equities to headlines. Post-Liberation Day, over a 10% decline in two days. The third largest daily gain ever for the S&P 500 on April 9th (when the 90-day pause was announced).